Eat the Rules with Summer Innanen
Carmen Cool, Psychotherapist is on the show talking about how to move past the “rebellious streak” that happens when we stop dieting, how to care for ourselves during political turmoil and more. In this episode, we chat about:
- How Carmen overcame an eating disorder and found health at every size and fat acceptance,
- The importance of weaving fat politics into her work with clients, 
- The practices that Carmen uses to help others unpack internalized fatphobia and weight stigma,
- How to manage/process feelings that come up with recent political events, 
- The importance of self-care and how to manage that when you feel guilty for taking a pause from everything happening in the world, 
- How tapping into our “rebellious side” during healing can lead to freedom, but also keep us stuck,
- What to do if you feel you are bouncing between compliance and rebellion (all or nothing anti-diet thinking), 
- Why attunement goes far beyond our food needs,
Plus, so much more! 
Direct download: 131_episode.mp3
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Rachel Cole shares the mic with me as we share our experiences with pregnancy, about our fears about the postpartum period, weight stigma, body image and more. We chat about:
- Our experiences with pregnancy thus far – the impact it’s had on our physical, spiritual and emotional well-being and whether it was what we expected,
- The amount of self-care that we’ve had to allocate to managing the emotional and physical changes of pregnancy, 
- The cultural pressure and beauty standards are put on pregnant people,
- Weight stigma and the impact it has on pregnant people,
- How pregnancy has impacted the relationship we have with our bodies and our body image,
- The specific things we’ve done to support our body image throughout pregnancy, 
- Rachel’s Belly Love Podcast to help people “get out of the homogenous stories of bellies" and feel more at ease,
- Our fears about postpartum – depression, anxiety, isolation and what plans we’re putting in place to support us,
- The importance of learning and talking about the postpartum period, 
Plus, so much more! 
Direct download: 130_episode.mp3
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Kristina Bruce, Certified Integrative Life Coach is on the show talking about how our thoughts are not the truth, tools you can use to change your beliefs about food and your body and more. We chat about:
- Kristina shares her story of being obsessed with “wellness” to be thin and how she found the anti-diet way and health at every size,
- How Byron Katie’s “The Work” helped her to find out her truth and stop relying on external messages, 
- The basics of “The Work” and the various questions you can ask yourself to dig into your beliefs,
- Why our stressful thoughts are not the truth, 
- How to dig deeper into beliefs in order to shift them or see them another way, 
- Specific steps you can take to explore a stressful/negative thought to try and shift it,
- How to integrate social justice into changing your thoughts, 
- Why our culture’s obsession with extreme diets might be a response to the chaos in the world,
Plus, so much more! 
Direct download: 129_episode.mp3
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Gloria Lucas, body-positive activist and founder of Nalgona Positivity Pride is on the show talking about the impact of historical trauma on the mental health of BIPOC, why diet culture is colonial mentality and more. We chat about:
- Gloria shares her story of recovering from an eating disorder and why this prompted her to start Nalgona Positivity Pride,
- How her experience recovering from an eating disorder brought to light how ED recovery leaves out and is inaccessible to marginalized groups, 
- What historical trauma is and how it impacts the experiences and recovery for marginalized folx,
- Why “diet culture is colonial mentality” and how “you are what you eat” is colonial mentality, 
- How foods that are part of indigenous cultures become co-opted by health culture and why this is so problematic, 
- The influence of colonialism on body image for brown-indigenous folx and Gloria’s experience with this,
- Why body positivity needs to be more inclusive and political to change the institutions that are terrorizing bodies, 
- How “reclaiming her identity as brown” helped with Gloria’s healing,
Plus, so much more! 
Direct download: 128_episode.mp3
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I’m interviewing Sassy Latte, Body and Sex positive Feminist, about how the concept of “self-love” leaves out marginalized individuals, issues within body positivity and more. We chat about:
-How @sassy_latte came to be and thoughts on first discovering body positivity,
-How fusing the political with personal has been imperative to healing body dissatisfaction for Sassy, 
-The intersection of race and body image, 
-Why “self-love” neglects the trauma/experiences of marginalized bodies and how we can do better to make it more inclusive, 
-The problems with the body positivity movement and how it can discredit marginalized bodies,
-Is allyship even possible as a thin and/or white person?
-What it means to tokenize and how this is problematic for those in marginalized groups,
-Where white women (and particularly thin white women) can do better to support POC and other marginalized groups, 
Plus, so much more! 
Direct download: 127_episode.mp3
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I’m interviewing  Isaiah Bartlett, queer trans radical therapist, about his struggles with body image and an eating disorder, the intersection between gender dysphoria and body image, and advice on healing for queer and trans folx. We chat about:
- Isaiah shares his story of coming out as trans and how gender dysphoria impacted his body image,
- Isaiah’s recovery from an eating disorder and exercise addiction and what he continues to struggle with, 
- The intersection of gender dysphoria, body image and eating disorders, 
- Why the prevalence of eating disorders in trans individuals is likely much higher than 4 times, 
- The problems with eating disorder recovery and how it’s not inclusive to trans folx,
- Cultivating body trust as a queer and trans individual,
- The problematic messages in the body positive movement that exclude and further marginalize trans folx, 
- Why we need more space for not being OK with our bodies and that we don’t all need to radically love ourselves,
Plus, so much more! 
Direct download: 126_episode.mp3
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I’m answering your questions on the relationship between weight gain and emotions, whether you need to eat intuitively to feel better in your body and what to do if you feel like you’re “not doing this right.” I talk about:
- My thoughts on whether weight loss can happen through healing trauma,
- The problems with the “weight gain is the result of emotions trapped in the body” narrative, 
- The importance of looking at whether or not something promotes a fatphobic narrative, 
- What it means to have a positive body image and why eating without rules supports this, 
- The importance of getting rid of conditions and tracking tools that we use to measure our worth, 
- Why we need to define what it means for us to have a good relationship with our body,
- The importance of following people who have a larger body to your own,
- Why weight change has nothing to do with whether you are doing this whole body image/food thing right, 
Plus, so much more! 
Direct download: 125_episode.mp3
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I’m running solo and talking about how to set boundaries with people who talk about dieting. Plus, how to successfully exist in diet culture.. I talk about:
- How to decide what boundaries to set,
- Why having boundaries is an essential part of bolstering your self-worth, 
- The two types of boundaries you can set, 
- How to set a boundary with family/friends who talk about dieting, 
- A script of what to say when you’re setting the boundary, 
- What to do if setting boundaries feels scary and hard,
- How to respond to triggering situations where your body image has been shaken or you feel tempted to diet,
- Specific things you can do to cope when you’ve been triggered, 
Plus, so much more! 
Direct download: 124_episode.mp3
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I’m interviewing Dr. Colleen Reichmann, about the problems with wellness and fitness culture, how they hurt our mental health and how to heal an obsessive relationship with these things. We chat about:
- How Colleen healed her eating disorder and went on to become a clinical psychologist who specializes in this field,
- How she found health at every size and fat acceptance and incorporates this into her practice, 
- The problems with wellness culture and why it is diet culture in disguise, 
- Why we are so obsessed with wellness as a culture, 
- Why our body and willpower is not the problem when it comes to having “control with food,” 
- Why we both think the keto diet is the worst,
- How to heal your obsessive relationship with wellness and fitness,
- Why “strong is the new skinny” is so problematic and why extremes in fitness are not often acknowledged as disordered, 
Plus, so much more! 
Direct download: 123_episode.mp3
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I’m interviewing Aaron Flores, about healing body image from a male perspective, how to teach kids to have a positive body image and taking a health at every size approach to healing binge eating disorder. We chat about:
- How Aaron’s path to intuitive eating and health at every size started by helping clients with weight loss and realizing the damage it was doing,
- Aaron’s struggles with body image and the steps he took to heal, 
- The importance of focusing on respecting your body instead of “loving” your body, 
- Different ways to teach kids how to have a positive body image, 
- How Aaron responded when his son came to him and was upset because someone had called him fat, 
- What characterizes binge eating disorder and makes it similar to binging in response to chronic dieting,
- How weight-stigma is trauma and the importance of addressing this in healing,
- How Aaron approaches BED from a health at every size, trauma-informed perspective, 
Plus, so much more! 
Direct download: 122_episode.mp3
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